The next part of course is to do some cause-and-effect analysis and see how much can be attributed to that. This has all steamrolled – MTAA Super’s experience is but one fund’s example. Cbus and other funds have had their examples too. Similar conversations were happening in every super fund boardroom.

Greg Staunton: Cbus is another fund which has started to do a fair bit of work through group training with apprentices, and now roll out workplace programs. Likewise, we are seeing a downward trend in their suicide rate. Again it’s early days and we might see that deteriorate when we get the full claims through, but I think the initial indications suggest there might be positive impact from these programs.